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Fake checks

I would like to write an article on fake checks. There are currently articles on Wikipedia discussing related issues, such as advance fee fraud (which has a sub-section on fake cheques), but it does not go in to detail about the issue. There is also an article on cheque fraud, but I'm not sure it is specific enough to the issue of fake checks.

In particular, there appears to be little/no information related to whose responsibility it is when people are victims of fake check fraud and what agencies and non-profit organizations are doing to fight fake check fraud.

Input from the community on whether this is merits its own article, or simply clean-up/expansion of the existing articles ont he subject would be much appreciated.

JammingEcono (talk) 16:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


I feel that a separate section needs created for Fake Checks to talk about the various types of Fake Check Fraud. Not only is there Advance Fee Fraud, but fake checks also happen with Work at Home Schemes, Love Losses, and Rental Schemes as well.

Also, fake checks could also cover fake Demand Draft or Remotely Created Checks that draft a consumers account without their permission, another large segment of Fake Check Fraud. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.71.234.254 (talk) 14:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi. The question would be what kind of sources you have to demonstrate notability of the specific subject of "fake checks." With articles like these, there's always a little bit of a challenge to be sure that the title you're choosing is a widely used term that has been the subject of specific commentary from respectable sources like newspapers or journal articles or major websites, like bloomberg. Helping your case, there seems to be a respectable source right at that name: http://www.fakechecks.org/. (For more about this, see Wikipedia:Avoid neologisms. Basic point: as long as the title is in wide usage with plenty of secondary sources talking about it, as a specific term, then you're probably in good shape.)
The other issue is whether or not you have enough additional information to warrant breaking out Advance-fee fraud#Fake checks into a new article. Helping your case there, that article seems quite long. (See Wikipedia:Article size and Wikipedia:Splitting.) If you do have enough sourced information that refers to reliable (non-promotional) sources to substantially expand that section, then it may well be appropriate to create a separate article, leaving a summary section at the original. Please be sure if you do split the material into a new article that you follow the procedure for crediting the original contributors in the edit summary of both articles. This is essentially to honor the copyright of the people who have written the text.
If you would like further feedback from me about this, including more specific directions for doing any of these things, please feel free to leave me a note at my talk page (see the link after my username). --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Project Magazine - New article

I hope that this is the correct forum to get some feedback on a possible new article. The article currently exists on my userpage: http://en.wikipedia.org/en/User:Offterrain

I know it's lacking a bit with sources (which are weak being online-only), but I'm not really sure any further sources exist. Also, referencing may not be done correctly. Any input is welcome, thanks.

Offterrain (talk) 01:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The article looks good, but I'm concerned with the lack of sources. I'm afraid that it may run into some trouble in not demonstrating that it meets notability. I'd like to suggest that you consider adding it as a section to Canadian Federation of Engineering Students, since it seems to be a publication of that body. Then a redirect could be made in article space pointing to that section, so that people seeking information on "Project Magazine" would be able to find it. If this is a solution that interests you and you need assistance in doing it, please follow the link after my name to my talk page to let me know, and I'll be happy to help. Otherwise, I'd suggest that you find a few more sources before moving the page to article space. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Benchmark Electronics - New Article

I have created a new article about Benchmark Electronics, Inc. I am an employee of Benchmark Electronics, and I am trying to have the article reviewed for notability, verifiability, and neutral point of view. The article can be found on my user page User:TanKaram/Benchmark_Electronics. Because I have an obvious conflict of interest, I am trying to follow the guidelines from Wikipedia:FAQ/Organization page. I am a bit confused as to where I need to post this for review, so if this is not the place to do it, or if I need to post it somewhere else as well, please let me know. Please reply to my talk page or the article talk page if possible. Thank you. TanKaram (talk) 22:53, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

  • The article is good, and can nearly go into the main space straight away. This is probably not the place to post about it. The section on the feedback page is the right place for this. Seeing as it should go up very soon, I think this thread here is closed.— Kan8eDie (talk) 19:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes, I will use the feedback page as suggested. Thank you. TanKaram (talk) 21:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Żądło-Dąbrowski z Dąbrówki h. Radwan

Żądło-Dąbrowski z Dąbrówki h. Radwan

This is the noble Polish family of the following two members, who each have their own article on Wikipedia:

Jarosław Dąbrowski

Stefan Tytus Dąbrowski

A third notable member of the family is:

The family is part of the immemorial Polish nobility. In the 18th century, nobility tracing its origins before the 15th century represented only 5% of the noble population as a whole. I believe that makes this family, the subject of the article, notable, particularly since the family has notable members, too.

In support of that 5% figure, see: http://books.google.com/books?id=MnwmMOWK-PsC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136

It seems ridiculous not to have a separate article on the noble family of these notable members, given the family they've come from is notable in and of itself. Without the article on their family, the same information about their background needs to be repeated in several articles. This is not good. There's no genealogical intent. The article on nobility states the term originally meant those who were known or notable.

The information in the deleted article is not very much different than information which appears in existing articles about these other Polish noble families:

Chołodecki
Hryniewiecki
Kalinowski family
Skwierczyński

This is some of the information I'd like to include in the article:

The Żądło-Dąbrowski z Dąbrówki h. Radwan1 family belonged to the immemorial Polish nobility23.  They originated from the Radwan knights' clan.  They were connected to Polish-English author Joseph Conrad3 and the revolutionary fight for national independence.

Żądło-Dąbrowski4 is pronounced "Zhondwo-Dombrovski."

From Mazowsze, Poland, the old szlachta (noble) family Żądło-Dąbrowski of Dąbrówka, coat-of-arms Radwan, took their surname from the village/patrimony Dąbrówka outside Piaseczno in the lands (ziemia/"county") of Warszawa, where other members of the family settled predominantly in the lands (ziemia) of Różan5.  They were always nobility, belonging to the szlachta odwieczna or immemorial nobility, and in the armorials of Poland, documentation from the 15th century is used to note them.3  The original surname/przydomek they used was "Żądło" (the Sting), prior to establishing the fixed surname/cognomen Dąbrowski derived from their patrimony/inheritance Dąbrówki/Dąbrówka.5

The family were first and foremost members of the ancient Radwan knights' clan (ród)/gens before they established a fixed surname/cognomen derived from their patrimony/inheritance (Dąbrówki/Dąbrówka):

"In Poland, the Radwanice were noted relatively early (1274) as the descendants of Radwan, a knight [more properly a "rycerz" {German "ritter"}] active a few decades earlier. ..."6.

Footnotes/Verifiable, Third-Party, Widely-Published Sources -- Żądło-Dąbrowski z Dąbrówki h. Radwan

  1. ^ M.J. Minakowski, "Żądło-Dąbrowski z Dąbrówki h. Radwan", Potomkowie Sejmu Wielkiego. Retrieved on December 29, 2008.
  2. ^ George J. Lerski, "Historical Dictionary of Poland, 966-1945" (Westport, Connecticut, U.S.A. * London, ENGLAND: Greenwood Press, 1996), page 103.
  3. ^ a b c Jerzy Zdrada, "Jarosław Dąbrowski: 1836 -- 1871" (Kraków, POLSKA: Wydawnictwo Literackie, 1973), pages 9-10.
  4. ^ Niesiecki S.J., Kasper, Korona Polska przy Złotey Wolnosci Starożytnemi Rycerstwa Polskiego y Wielkiego Xięstwa Litewskiego kleynotami ... ozdobiona ... podana tom drugi Przez X. Kaspra Niesieckego Societatis Jesu (Lwów, POLAND: Society of Jesus, 1738), Volume II, page 8.
  5. ^ a b Adam Józef Feliks Boniecki-Fredro, herbu Bończa; "Herbarz Polski - Część I.; Wiadomości Historyczno-Genealogiczne O Rodach Szlacheckich." (Warszawa, POLSKA: Skład główny Gebethner i Wolff w Warszawie, 1901), Volume IV, pages 147-148.
  6. ^ Janusz Bieniak, "Knight Clans in Medieval Poland," in Antoni Gąsiorowski (ed.), The Polish Nobility in the Middle Ages: Anthologies, Zakład Narodowy im. Ossolińskich - Wydawnictwo; Wrocław, POLSKA; 1984, page 154.


My primary concern is if the family per se is notable, given the verifiable sources provided?

Thanks in advance. -- Exxess (talk) 04:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this is not the proper forum for this question. Community consensus has already determined that the article that was deleted did not demonstrate notability, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radwan Dąbrowski-Żądło Family (2nd nomination). If you garner new evidence to suggest otherwise, you might want to bring up the matter again at deletion review. If the sources are the same as were already in the article, then the community has already decided that the answer is no. The opinion of one or two contributors here could not change that, even if they did agree with you, and raising the question might put you at risk of seeming to forum shop. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:01, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

BBS Addition

Will someone please respond to my ideas about the additions of BBSes here: http://en.wikipedia.org/en/Wikipedia:Drawing_board/Archives/2008/December#BBS_Addition/ReveurGAM (talk) 08:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I'm sorry that your question went unanswered. It does seem to be a bit off topic for the Drawing Board, however, which exists to discuss ideas for new articles you would like to write, not suggestions for articles you'd like to see written by others. For that, you might wish to try requested articles, which has the unfortunate disadvantage of being a very hit-and-miss forum, or a relevant Wikipedia:WikiProject or article (pick an active one!). You seem to have been around for a while, so forgive me if I'm obvious, but you mention that "there are no criteria listed that define "notable"." Notability for web material is defined here. If you bring this to the attention of other editors involved with such topics, they may be able to better help determine which of those meet notability and how to demonstrate that. My feedback would be limited to evaluating actual reliable sources used to verify such information as "Its influence and popularity contributed to ExecPC being sold by Bob Mahoney and was, until the advent of Metro BBS, the only real competition for ExecPC. Others, such as UDN, were pet projects, under-funded and/or just too "small," despite being multi-lined." But basically the number and quality of reliable sources is frequently the primary determinant of notability.
One more alternative I'll mention to you is that you might write these articles yourself in a user sandbox and then seek feedback on them at the conflict of interest noticeboard. I have seen this done in the past with good success, where articles were subsequently moved to article space. If you'd like to make sure it'll work out before the effort, you could ask in advance if a contributor there would be willing to provide feedback in that way. Goes without saying, I'm sure, that you'd need to avoid original research and go for neutrality. :) Good luck! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

The European Globalisation adjustment Fund (EGF)

The European Union set up the European Globalisation adjustment Fund (EGF) in late 2006.

What is the European Globalisation adjustment Fund (EGF)? The opening of economies to international competition brings new opportunities in terms of competitiveness and the creation of high-quality jobs. However, trade openness can also have negative consequences for the most vulnerable and least qualified workers in some sectors and areas of the European Union. The European Globalisation adjustment Fund (EGF) is an instrument which provides personalised support to workers who have been made redundant as a result of trade liberalisation, so that they can either remain in employment or find a new job quickly. The EGF expresses the Union's solidarity in complement to the support provided by the Member States at national, regional and local levels. The Fund specifically and directly supports people, not companies or institutions, through active labour market measures such as: counselling; job search and mobility allowances; new ICT skills and other forms of training; entrepreneurial support, including micro-credits. Since 2007 the EGF has spent almost EUR 68 million to help over 15,000 workers in eight Member States to find new jobs. The workers supported so far had been previously employed in the manufacture of vehicles, of mobile phones, and of textiles and clothing.

What conditions will trigger assistance from the EGF? The fund is activated, upon a request introduced by a Member State, when one or more companies (national, multinational or SMEs) announce at least 1,000 redundancies either in an enterprise, or in a sector within a region, due to structural changes in world trade patterns. The Fund is designed to intervene in cases where the redundancies have a significant impact on a region or a sector and therefore there is an EU dimension in terms of scale and impact.

What does the Fund do? Since 1 January 2007, the EGF has been funding active labour market policies helping workers made redundant as a result of globalisation, for example through: • job-search assistance, occupational guidance, tailor-made training and re-training including IT skills and certification of acquired experience, outplacement assistance and entrepreneurship promotion or aid for self-employment, • special time-limited measures, such as job-search allowances, allowances to individuals participating in lifelong learning and training activities, • measures to stimulate in particular disadvantaged or older workers, to remain in or return to employment. It complements support provided by the employers and national authorities concerned in terms of active labour market policy measures. It does not fund passive social protection measures such as retirement pensions or unemployment benefits, which are the competence of the Member States. Member States who have successfully applied for an EGF intervention can also use EGF money for information and communication activities highlighting the role of the Fund in their interventions to support workers.

How does it fit in with other EU funds, like the structural funds? The EU Structural Funds, in particular the European Social Fund (ESF), consist of multi-annual programmes in support of strategic, long-term goals, and management of change and restructuring in the 2007-2013 period, with activities such as life-long-learning. The EGF is a response to a specific, European scale crisis; it provides one-off, time limited individual support geared directly to helping workers who have become redundant for reasons related to international trade.


Who is eligible to the Fund's support? The EGF is open to all persons who work legally in the EU. It operates under the principle of subsidiarity, and in a system of shared management between the Commission and the Member State. Responsibility for implementing the EGF lies with the authorities of the Member States concerned. The maximum amount available through the EGF is €500 million per year for the period of 2007 to 2013.

How is the EGF responding to the global financial and economic crisis? The European Commission proposed on 16 December 2008 that, in addition to its current scope, the Fund should be able to support workers made redundant as a result of the global financial and economic crisis. In addition, it proposes to reduce the threshold of redundancies from the current 1,000 to 500, to extend the period of eacyh case from 12 months to 24 months, and to increase its contribution from 50 % of total cost to 75 % (the rest being contributed by the Member State). This proposal is now being discussed in the Council and the European Parliament.

Further information: http://ec.europa.eu/egf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoine Mallia (talk • contribs) 16:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

It seems like you've already started this one, here. Sorry you didn't get timely feedback. I'll tag that article for a few needed improvements. If you'd like to bring it into conformity with our various styleguides, you'll find more information on how to do so at those tags. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I want to ad a new word that I used with friends: "Digikiss" (digi-kiss)

The idea of sending a fisical kiss to someone through a digital media , like a mobile phone or pager is no really possible , so i wanted to send a type of kiss that i was not just audible or readable , but a fisical one and that had more meaning to someone who was the reciever of the digital kiss or like i have being naming IT with friends and love ones "DIGIKISS" OR "DIGI-KISS" , So basically the DIGIKISS is: a kiss that is sent through a digital divise , cell phone ,black berry , pager and others where you can sent TEXT massege . the DIGIKISS is no just a text , is a recieve command from the sender to act on the act/same moment you view the Text massege (example of text: " Hi honey i miss you so much ,wish you were here, i'm sending you a digikiss! i love you .") now the command or order is to be done at ones and digital divise for that moment will become the fisical part of the sender and should be place wherever the receiver will like to be kiss by the sender , so by placing the mobile phone in the part of the body the receiver of the digikiss or digi-kiss is compleating the command and the digikiss is completed . so the DIGIKISS or DIGI-KISS is a command that is sent to someone through a digital divise as a mobile phone and the command is to be fisically done at the time of view the massege, by placing the divise in a part or parts of the body where the receiver will like the sender to kiss in that pricise moment , so it becomes a fisical and interactive action/movement of acceptance of the reciever towards the senders , and/or in a instance of playfull action the divise or mobile phone could be place in an area of the body where it means something amusing or bulgar , if suspect of the sender of hiding close by to see the answer of the DIGIKISS or DIGI-KISS by the receiver, as I have had from many of my friends who love the idea of this new word that commands the receiver to kiss a part of their bodies , with their phones, mobile or digital divises --Pussila (talk) 12:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm afraid that this may not meet our inclusion guidelines on Wikipedia at this time. See Wikipedia:Avoiding neologisms, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary and Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. If the term catches on enough to meet our notability guidelines, then maybe someday. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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